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Eating and Drinking at a stinky ditch in Nottingham.

Postby Roo » Mon Mar 07, 2011 7:54 pm

After spending the day feeling sorry for myself I decided to google a stinky ditch in Nottingham water quality. I found a pretty intresting article! I've been for full days paddling in the past and had no issues, so was pretty suprised when i got sick! I hadn't done much boating this weekend and didn't spend much time in the water. What was interesting about the study was that Eating and Drinking when wet at a stinky ditch in Nottingham increased the risk of sickness significantly! thought that this was a really interesting point! The a stinky ditch in Nottingham website also suggests not eating and showering straight after your session is important! Suppose its worth considering for next rodeo! I'll definitely take this info on board for next year and change my approach!
(also this isnt a bitch about a stinky ditch in Nottingham water quality! its a quality facility and we're lucky to have it! so none of that please)
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Postby ruby » Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:08 pm

to back this up i didnt even go in the river all weekend and i'm still ill :( i never get sick and usually have a pretty strong stomach. im confused!
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Postby Arthur » Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:09 pm

Hehe, another critical factor will probably be how many ham and cheese toasties you pinched. Salmonella is a bitch even when it's not conjugated with trent-belly. Sincere apologies.
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Postby Jake » Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:14 pm

If you didnt go on the river, its not trent belly. You just need to stop being such a dirty person.
Wash your hands and stay well hydrated and paddling at a stinky ditch in Nottingham is just like anywhere else.
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Postby Roo » Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:33 pm

Did you wash your hands everytime you had a toastie on Safety Jake!? ;) I know i didnt! And a stinky ditch in Nottingham isnt like paddling everywhere else! Its water quality is much poorer than most rivers! I dont think that can be argued!
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Postby Jake » Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:41 pm

I dont have to, i stay well hydrated thanks to the amazing tea and toastie team which is why i never get ill at a stinky ditch in Nottingham and anyone who has seen me paddle there will tell you i spend most of my time upside down.
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Postby TomC » Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:43 pm

Its more likely you are all ill from that fucking disgusting cider at the parties..
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Re: Eating and Drinking at a stinky ditch in Nottingham.

Postby andy j » Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:49 pm

At lower, summer flows the risk is a lot lower. Much of the issues with the Trent are associated with higer, sustained flows.

That said, I've been paddling there for 7 years and never had an issue despite accidentally consuming some of the Trent when going over every time I've boated there (including this weekend).

Ruby makes a good point, in my opinion, much of the sickness after NSR is just as likely to be attributable due to your lifestyle over the weekend. With heavy drinking, 3 days spent in the cold outdoors and your immune system taking a battering, it is no wonder people get ill. Much like the phenomenon of 'Fresher's Flu'.
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Postby Beth » Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:57 pm

Yeah to further this point, I have never been that ill from it, stomach cramps etc but nothing more than that. I went to NSR having been feeling really rough for the past few weeks and even though I made a concious effort not to drink much, I had 3 nights in a cold tent, poor nutrition and hygiene, lack of sleep, lots of exercise especially in the heats etc where your time on the water is short but intense, and generally just a different way of living for those days.

I've done long days on the course before and eaten etc, but never been sick until last night. I feel this is because of the general weekend situation and the fact that my immune system is clogged with other stuff at the moment. And I don't think I stayed hydrated enough, as Jake mentioned.

Also I'm sure Ross would argue the Burrs water quality is worse!!
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Postby Jake » Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:00 pm

I for one have been more ill from the lune and the bure than I have ever been from the trent. I'm not saying the trent is clean Roo, I'm just saying your personal hygeine could be improved :P
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Postby mattH » Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:23 pm

As most people have pointed out, there are distinct differences between getting ill from NSR (at a stinky ditch in Nottingham) and getting ill whilst on a mates trip paddling at a stinky ditch in Nottingham. I'm also in the lucky camp of never suffering from V and D from the water on the course.

It is correct the water quality of the Trent, generally speaking is fairly poor in comparison to other rivers in Europe. It isn't rocket science what to do when you go paddling there normally - wash your hands before you eat, stay hydrated etc. - to be honest, something it's fairly sensible to do when paddling anyway (e.g. the Irwell/Burrs is just as "dirty" as the Trent). Higher flows on most rivers, including the Trent, will increase chances of you catching something because of water courses and hydrology, particularly urban rivers and those with catchment areas that have a lot of agricultural use.

The centre suggests a shower after paddling there, partly to cover their own backs and because they've provided the facilities anyway, partly because it is good advice for some people. Everyone has different levels of immunity to different things, due to countless individual physiological factors. The fact Jake didn't wash his hands before eating his toasty and yet isn't ill is more related to his immune defence as opposed to the water quality directly. The fact the rodeo beasts people's immune system is of course a big contributing factor to why people get ill, the water-borne virus is the army, the fact you've abused your body is just giving them some shotguns.

The only thing that can provide some form of "added defence" theoretically is coca-cola because it raises the acidity in the stomach making it less hospitable for the bacteria; but of course this won't work for everyone either.

In conclusion
- Some people get ill, some don't
- If you wash your hands etc. it might help, it might not
- If you don't wash your hands you might be more likely to get ill, you might not
- The "rodeo lifestyle" is a big contributor to you getting ill from the water, but you still might not
- Coke might help, it might not

POT LUCK basically

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Postby Roo » Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:17 pm

Guys your all completely right! I think matts comment hits it on the head about all the factors coming together!

Id agree with jake that in the past i've got more ill from other rivers than the trent.

The whole point of the post was that there was a study that specifically showed that there was a much greater incidence of gastric issues when participants had either eaten or drank whilst wet at a stinky ditch in Nottingham! Just something to consider.
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Postby IsaacJonesy » Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:28 pm

Generally I think I agree that the illness is a combination of festival lifestyle / crappy water quality. Though i definitely feel MUCH worse than i ever have after any Leeds fest etc. So i think the water quality may just be the tipping point for some people

Maybe next year we could put some advise out to people (signs/ flyers in goodie bags or using the electronic scoreboard) regarding some of the tips to stay well mentioned above. Thats my only suggestion.
All in all I had a great time! Thanks LUUCC
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Postby ruby » Tue Mar 08, 2011 7:09 am

maybe free hand sanitizer could be an idea. i also go to festivals a lot and spent a whole week working at reading this year and didnt get ill so it just proves that nsr is more extreme than a festival and loads better in my opinion. no idea why i got ill but it seems to be slowly going now so was hopefully just one of those 24 hr things. i hope everyone else is feeling better. i had an amazing weekend, cannot wait for next year!!
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Postby Jake » Tue Mar 08, 2011 10:13 am

I've decided that open wounds are also a bad idea
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